XXXI - 4 (98) “Watchman, what of the night?” "The hour has come, the
hour is striking and striking at you, The Eternal Verities -4 THE GODHEAD Page 2
What Next Page 4
Let's Talk It Over Page 6 Editor's Preface The first
article concludes the summation of the second "Eternal Verity" - the
Incarnation. We discuss the doctrine as found not only in the Pauline Epistles
but also in the Epistles of John. In reviewing the first verses of John's first
Epistle, new perceptions of Christ's eternal pre-existence broke into my mind.
Using the same preposition as in the prologue of his Gospel - proV - John
declares they showed to the believers "that Eternal Life which was with
the Father." No inference is suggested that that "Eternal Life"
was en (in) the
Father and was "begotten" by Him, but rather had been ever
"with" the Father. The capsheaf on the nature Christ assumed in
accepting humanity is found in the heart of the Revelation of Jesus Christ. He
was a male Child who could understand all of our infirmities. Coming
home from a weekend in Alabama, I found that I had received in the mail the
clipping pictured on page 5. The thoughtfulness of the one sending it to me is
much appreciated. "Unbelievable" is probably too mild a term, but
what else can one say after reading it? It must be assumed that the one making
the statement in direct quotes is a leader of some rank in the Church at
Frederick, Maryland. Whatever the situation; whatever his background and training;
where has been the Pastor-Teacher with the gift to give faithful instruction to
the laity? The article indicates that the same pastor is serving the Church
now, who was serving the Church when it burned. Is it a sad picture of one too
busy doing the "Lord's work" of building a new edifice, that he did
not have time to plant truth into the minds and hearts of the members of the
congregation? How can anyone knowing the assumptions made in the celebration of
the Mass, think that God answered such prayers? If indeed there was more than a
mere coincidence involved as suggested in this report, those who so believe
need to make a new appraisal of the corporate Church. The
editorial - "Let's Talk It Over" - suggests that we need to take a
new look at what is really unique about Adventism. Page 2 Eternal Verities The Incarnation - II In the
Epistles is to be found a theology of the Incarnation, a theology sufficiently
detailed so that it can be determined beyond question whether Christ took upon
Himself the nature of Adam prior to the Fall, or the nature after the Fall, or
a selected human nature which resembled both the post-Fall and pre-Fall Adamic
nature. Paul,
writing to the Church at Corinth, stated that God in "reconciling the
world unto Himself," made Christ "to be sin for us, who knew no sin;
that we might be the righteousness of God in Him." (II Cor. 5:19, 21)
While the emphasis by Paul in this section of his letter is on reconciliation
and its ministry, it cannot be overlooked that basic to this reconciliation is
Jesus "made sin." This could not be unless He incarnated in the
fallen nature of man where sin held its dominion. To break the power of
"the strong man," Christ had to "first bind the strong
man," then He could "spoil his house." (Matt. 12:29) We can but
dimly comprehend the depths of the condescension to rescue man from the grasp
of sin, except as we meditate on the "outer darkness" that enveloped
the cross and hear the anguished cry that pierced the Heavens, "My God, my
God, why hast Thou forsaken Me"? The result - "we [can] be made the
righteousness of God in Him." As he
continued his epistle, Paul noted another aspect of the Incarnation. He wrote -
"Ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though He was rich, yet
for your sakes He became poor, that ye through His poverty might be rich."
(II Cor. 8:9) This was more than the mere fact that "the Son of man hath
not where to lay His head." (Matt. 8:20) As Alford in his Greek Testament comments -
"It was not merely by His renunciation of human riches during His life on
earth, but by His exinanition [act of
evacuating] of His glory." (Vol. II, p.681) The force of this
aspect of the Incarnation, Paul will pursue in his letter to the Philippian Church. This we will now consider. He wrote: Let
this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: who, being in the form of
God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: but made Himsef
of no reputation, and took on Him the form of a servant, and was made in the
likeness of men: and being found in fashion as a man, He humbled Himself and
became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. (Phil 2:5-8) Within
these verses, four words used by Paul need to be fully understood:
"form" (morfh), "fashion" (schma), "no
reputation" (κενόω), and "likeness" (omoiwma). Moulton
and Milligan in their work, The
Vocabulary of' the Greek New Testament, observe that morfh "always
signifies a form which truly and fully expresses the being which underlies
it." (p.417) Paul uses it twice to contrast what Jesus was and what He
took upon Himself. He was "in the form of God.” This is defined as being
equal (isa) with God. The word, isa means equal in either
"quality or quantity" (Thayer). In the case of Christ it was both.
However, in the incarnation, He took upon Himself, "the form of a
servant" (slave, δοῦλος). If this
statement were all that was given in the New Testament in regard to the nature
that Christ assumed in the flesh, it would be sufficient to settle the question
once and for all what Adamic nature He accepted. Not until Adam sinned did he
have a slave form. The second
word - schma - signifies the outward appearance. His external bearing was
"in the likeness of men." The third
word, a verb (κενόω), in the KJV reads that Christ
made Himself of no reputation."
The RV translates the same word as "but emptied Himself." Literally translated the text reads -
"But Himself, He emptied" (alla eauton ekenwsen) - the emphatic sentence
structure. Moulton and Milligan cited above, notes a use of the verb, κενόω, in
secular literature supporting the RV translation (p.340). Laying aside
"the form of God," He took the slave form of man. John in his Gospel
records the prayer of Jesus, requesting of the Father that He be glorified
"with the glory which He had with [Him] before the world was" (17:5).
Yet John in his gospel declares that when the Logos became flesh He possessed a
glory as the unique One of the Father, "full of grace and truth"
(1:14). He emptied Himself of the manifest possession of Deity, yet retaining
the essential elements of Divinity - grace and truth. The fourth
word, omoiwma (in likeness), is connected
with what He became, anqrwpwn (of men) - literally
"in the likeness of men becoming." The question is, Did Christ really
become man, or did He merely give the appearance of being a man? The Bible
plainly teaches the reality of the humanness of Jesus. He slept; He hungered;
He thirsted; He wept - He was truly a man. The religious leaders who contended
with Him had no problem with the fact that He was a man. They said to Him -
"For a good work we stone thee not, but ... because that thou being a man,
makest thyself God." (John 10:33) This force of
the word used by Paul to convey that Jesus was really a man needs to be
understood and retained in one's thinking, because elsewhere he uses this same
word in defining the nature He assumed in humanity. We
consider this text next. In his letter to the Romans, Paul wrote - "God
sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin condemned sin
in the flesh." (Rom. 8:3) Here is again the same word translated
"likeness." Literally, en omoiwmati sarkoV
amartiaV - "in the likeness of a flesh of sin. To understand the word, 'omoiwma,
differently here than in Philippians 2:7, is wresting Scripture. God sent His
Son in the reality of a flesh of sin. Paul is not saying that He was sinful,
but that He was like all others who were born into the human race having the
tendencies and potential to sin. To emphasize the force of this fact, Paul adds
that He condemned sin "in the flesh." If not the reality, the
condemnation was only an appearance - the victory a farce. In his
letter to the Galatians, Paul emphasizes that Christ "was born out of
woman, born under law." (Gal. 4:4) He came as all Page 3 other
children come, came under the same law of heredity to which all are subject.
Since the Fall, there has been no other flesh than the flesh of sin. But
because of what Jesus did in that flesh of sin - condemned sin - there is hope
that when He comes the second time, He will come "without sin unto
salvation." (Heb. 9:28) The
discussion of Jesus as a man, and his relationship to those He came to save, in
Hebrews 2:9-18, has been the basis upon which not only the leaders of the Holy
Flesh Movement built their Christology, but is also the text used today by
those who teach that Christ came born, born again. The assumption drawn from
these verses is that while Jesus was "in all things made like unto His
brethren" (ver. 17), these "brethren" were "sanctified"
(ver. 11). Therefore Jesus did not come in the likeness of sinners, but in the
likeness of men redeemed and sanctified. (It is not explained how these
"sanctified ones" became sanctified, because if Jesus came only to
that level, who made the provision for them to reach the level where they were?
Is there an unknown "Saviour"?) This faulty teaching results from a
failure to understand what the text actually states in verse 11 - "for
both He that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one." The
KJV omits a word from the final phrase - "all of one." The Greek text
reads - ex enoV panteV - out of one, all. If the
preposition, ek (ex before vowels) meaning "out of” were not in the text, then
the assumption that all - the sanctified, and the One sanctifying were of one
nature, might have merit. This cannot be with the use of the preposition, ek, denoting
source or origin. The text indicates a common source - all out of one source.
Two possible sources would do no violence to the text: 1) Out of the Father, or 2) Out of Adam. The evidence from the
context would indicate the latter because it reads - "He took on Him the
seed of Abraham" (ver. 16). This was
the interpretation given by A. T. Jones. In a series of talks at the
1895 General Conference session on "The Third Angel's Message, Jones
commented on Heb. 2:11 stating: In
His human nature, Christ came from the man from whom we all have come; so that
the expression in this verse, "all of one," is the same as "all
from one," - all coming forth from one. And the genealogy of Christ, as
one of us, runs to Adam. Luke 3:38. (GC Bulletin, p.231) A closer
look at what is written to the Hebrews tells us something. "For as much as
the children are partakers of flesh and blood, He also himself took part of the
same;" - for a purpose - "that through death He might destroy him
that had the power of death, that is, the devil" (ver. 14). We might ask:
Could Adam have died, once created, unless he sinned? We might inquire further;
could Christ if He had taken the nature of unfallen Adam have died, since He
did not sin? He took the nature of those He came to save from "the power
of death." Turning
now to the Epistles of John, and the book of Revelation which he was
commissioned to write, the same position in regard to the Incarnation is
reflected as has been noted in the Epistles of Paul. Using the same theme which
marks the introduction to his Gospel, John begins his first Epistle declaring – That
which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our
eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word (logoV) of
life. (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and
shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifest
unto us;) That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also
may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and
with His Son Jesus Christ (I John 1:1-3) The Word
of life which was with God was a reality - they saw, heard, and felt His substance.
That "Eternal One" which was from the beginning with the Father was
manifest - made flesh (John 1:14) - to them. This One which John had seen and
heard declared he unto those to whom he was now writing. It was in that
manifestation in flesh - real tangible flesh - that the believer was to have
fellowship with the Son, Jesus Christ. He is the Son of God in our flesh, not
in some emanating spirit form. "Unto us a son is given" in our flesh
and blood. On this point a warning is sounded in his epistles: Beloved,
believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because
many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of
God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ
is come in the flesh is of God: and every spirit that confesseth
not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that
spirit of antichrist (I John 4:1-3) In his
second Epistle, the warning is again sounded: For
many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is
come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist (II John 7) While
John's emphasis is clearly centered on the reality of God in the flesh, and not
that Jesus Christ was only an appearance, it cannot be side-stepped that He
came in the flesh, the same as those to whom He was manifest, who both saw,
heard, and handled Him. They lived with Him; ate with Him, dwelt with Him. He
was not different from them. John uses only one word to describe His reality as
a man - the Word was made flesh, and the only flesh he knew was that
which he himself possessed. At the
very heart of the Unveiling (apokalaluyiV) of Jesus Christ is the visionary manifestation of Jesus as "a
Man-child" (Rev.12:5). The Greek text reads - kai eteken uion, arsen - literally, "and she brought
forth a son, a male." The emphasis is that this Son was a male, not a
eunuch. He was not bereft of the forces which surge through human beings; He
understood the "feelings of our infirmities" (Heb. 4:15). In the next
scene of the vision, as a warfare between Michael and the dragon, "the
Man-child" conquered. "The dragon ... prevailed not." From
heaven - to which the Man-child was taken - came "a loud voice"
declaring, "Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our
God, and the power of His Christ (Messiah); for the accuser of our brethren is
cast down" Page 4 (Rev.12:10).
Herein lies the hope of those who place their trust in Him - "the
Man-child." He is "to rule all nations with a rod of iron"
because He ruled the flesh He took with the same rod. It is declared of those
who exercise their privilege to become "sons of God" (John 1:12),
brothers of "the Man-child," that they, too, "overcame him [the
dragon] by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they
loved not their lives unto death" (Rev.12:11). In the heart of this Apocalypse to
John is to be found in symbolism the victory over sin at its very fountainhead
- the flesh. The Word (Logos) came to be flesh - "a Man-child."
Accepting "a flesh of sin," He condemned sin in that flesh, that we
might overcome "through the blood of the Lamb" to which we have
contributed nothing, yet are enabled to testify to its saving power, willingly
following the blood stained path to Calvary, loving not our lives even unto
death. (To Be Continued)
What
Next? In the
mid-seventies, when the documents connected with the EEEC vs. PPPA became
available, the first shock of what was happening in the thinking of the
hierarchy of the regular Church was experienced by concerned Adventists. A
footnote in a Brief submitted by the legal counsel for the Church read: Although it is true that there was a
period in the life of the Seventh-day Adventist Church when the denomination
took a distinctly anti-Roman Catholic viewpoint, and the term
"hierarchy" was used in a pejorative sense to refer to the form of
church governance, that attitude on the church's part was nothing more than a
manifestation of a widespread anti-popery among conservative protestant
denominations in the early part of this century and the latter part of the
last, and which has now been consigned to the historical trash heap so far as
the Seventh-day Adventist Church is concerned. (Reply Brief dated March 3, 1975, Footnote
#2; submitted in the US District Court, Northern District of California) This drift
Romeward was heightened in 1981 with the publication
of God Cares, a commentary on Daniel, written by C. Mervyn Maxwell.
After listing eight identifying marks of the little horn in Daniel 7, Maxwell
wrote: Only
one entity really fits all eight of these identifying marks - the Christian
church which rose to religiopolitical prominence as
the Roman Empire declined and which enjoyed a special influence over the minds
of men between the sixth and eighteenth centuries. To
call this Christian church the "Roman Catholic" Church can be
misleading if Protestants assume that the Roman Catholic Church of, say, the
sixth century was one big denomination among others, as it is today. Actually
the Roman Catholic Church was virtually the Christian church in
Western Europe for about a thousand years. Because of this early universality,
both Protestant and Catholics may regard it as the embodiment of
"our" Christian heritage, for better or for worse." (p.127; emphasis his) Before
listing the eight points of identification of the little horn, Maxwell actually
wrote that "in Daniel 7 God purposefully presented a one-sided picture of
Rome as a terrible beast ..." While shocking, this should not have been
unexpected. Maxwell's father, Arthur S. Maxwell, had declared upon his return
from the Vatican II Council - "We must rethink our approach to our Roman
Catholic friends. How can we reject an outstretched hand and be
Christians?" By "friends" Maxwell was referring to the priests
and hierarchy of the Roman Church. He suggested "that a lot of our
preachers are going to have to throw away a lot of old sermons. You and me - a
lot of old sermons. I scrapped a lot of them already." (Present Truth,
1968, #3, pp.13, 14) Where? - on "the historical trash heap." So what
did Dr. Merwyn do? He scrapped the basic Adventist
understanding of who the antichrist is, and whitewashed it into "the
Christian Church" of the Dark Ages! During
this decade - 1975-1985 - other things were taking place in the Romeward drift of the Church. B. B. Beach, during a papal
audience at Rome in 1977, placed in the hand of Pope Paul VI, a gold medallion,
as a symbol of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. Sculptured by a Roman Catholic,
Ralph J. Menconi, it was replete with Roman
symbolism. (See, Steps to Rome,
a documented manuscript, pp.10-11, & Appendix B) At the
General Conference session in 1990, for the first time in the history of such
sessions, an observer representing the Pontifical Council for Promoting
Christian Unity attended. In introducing T. J. Murphy, pastor of Saint Joan of
Arc Church in Indianapolis, B. B. Beach declared, "He is here to give
greetings on behalf of the Roman Catholic Church." (GC Bulletin, #7, p.8) The delegates applauded. Murphy responded: During
this occasion, the fifty-fifth world session of the General Conference of
Seventh-day Adventists, I convey to you greetings and prayerful best wishes
from the president, secretary, and members of the Pontifical Council for
Promoting Christian Unity. I bring you personal greetings from the archbishop
of Indianapolis, promising and assuring you that prayers are being offered
within our community for the blessed success of this General Conference. It is
a deep honor to be present as an observer of these momentous and Spirit-filled
proceedings and deliberations. For it is the desire of the Saviour Himself that
His disciples might all be one so that the world may believe. I conclude with a prayer from
our liturgy, a prayer we (Continued
on original p 6)
Page 6 What Next?
- from p 4 can voice from our hearts. "Deliver
us, Lord, from every evil, and grant us peace in our day. In Your mercy, keep
us free from sin and protect us from all anxiety as we wait in joyful hope for
the coming of our Saviour Jesus Christ. Amen." (ibid.) Keep in
mind that this Roman priest did not come on his own volition. While he was a
local parish pastor, he spoke as a representative of the Pontifical Council for
Promoting Christian Unity. He was sent by that higher Roman authority because
that Pontifical Council had an invitation lodged with it by the Adventist
Church leadership. What Next?
The next happening is dated January 17, 1998. We have reproduced on the
previous page the article from the Hagerstown, Maryland, The Herald-Mail, as it was received by us, so that all may read the
key paragraph in full context. The first four paragraphs have been enlarged for
your in depth consideration. The direct quotes of Frank Damazo
by the Staff Writer is beyond comprehension. Let us do
a little thinking about the implications of these remarks. What perceptions
could a Roman Catholic priest have of the present thinking in Adventism to
dedicate a blasphemous Mass to the Seventh-day Adventist Church? What
"spirit" motivated such a gesture, and at such a time? What power
turned the air currents and saved the Church School? If Damazo
believed as indicated by the Staff Writer of The Herald-Mail, he must believe that the power of God is working
in the celebration of the Mass. How far has Adventist thinking gone? All of
this along with the series of documentation cited above, recalls a letter
received by the "Evangelistic Literature Enterprise" located in Brendale, Queensland, Australia, January 17,1984, signed, "Shannon." Claiming
to be a Jesuit priest,
he wrote – The main aims of our organization have
been direct, against a Christian Church which we have very thoroughly
infiltrated. They are the Remnant Church of Revelation 12:v.17 and Rev. 14:
v.12 [A Handwritten
Letter, copy of which was received at the Foundation office] An
Australian inquiry received a response from the editor of the Evangelistic
Literature Enterprise which stated - "I do believe it was an authentic
Jesuit. Basing my judgment on the word, 'remnant' I would conclude that he was
referring to the SDA Church." WHAT Let's Talk It Over This
morning I was reading a "Statement
of Faith" prepared by a congregational Seventh-day Adventist Church which
had been in association with the conference of Churches where it is located.
Several points in this statement, along with the circumstances and events
associated with its break-a-way from the Conference, need to be discussed. The
Lord willing, we shall do so in a future issue of WWN. Over the
years, we have taught that the Sabbath is the distinguishing mark of God's true
Church. (Now there are various communions outside the community of Adventism
which observe the Bible Sabbath) We have proclaimed it as the seal of God's
Law. I was - and I am groping for a word to describe my reaction to what I read
in this "Statement of Faith" about their position on the Sabbath.
Perhaps the word I want is "astounded." I have never faced before the
line of reasoning used to justify the keeping of the Sabbath, yet a line of
reasoning which permits Sunday-keeping "all in the same breath," and
I was engaged in public evangelism many years of my ministry for the Church.
Here is what it states in full on "The Sabbath: Because God rested on the seventh day
from His work of creation, and Jesus rested on the Sabbath after His completed
work of salvation on the cross, the Sabbath has become a symbol in time of
God's finished work in Christ (Heb. 4:9-10). Since the principle of a seventh
day of rest is clearly taught in the OT and not untaught in the NT, we choose
to conduct our regular worship services on Saturday. Rather than creating nonbiblical religious Sabbath-keeping traditions like the
Pharisees at the time of Christ, we celebrate the Sabbath as a symbol of
Christ's finished work. God may and should be worshiped on every day of the
week, therefore we do not intend for the day of worship to be a point of
contention or division with other Christians. You find a
word now to describe your reaction. There is both simple truth and subtle error
in the above statement, but very smoothly blended. In this statement a basic
pillar of Adventism is applied so as to annul another basic pillar. In so
doing, you really end up with neither. So this
raises the fundamental question as to our existence as Adventists. What was the
unique message given to the Seventh-day Adventist Church to proclaim? Or what
makes our teaching unique? We say the Three Angels' Messages of Revelation
14:6-12. (See 9T:19) However, only as we relate them in the context of
Daniel 7:9-10 do we have a uniqueness. "The hour of His judgment is
come." (Revelation) "The judgment was set and the books were
opened." (Daniel) All of this must be associated with "the
everlasting gospel." Page 7 Just what
is unique in Adventism that you cannot find in the teachings of any other
group? The Sabbath is no longer a distinctive mark as we noted above, neither
the teaching of the Second Advent of Jesus Christ. You might respond and say
the sanctuary doctrine. Yes and No. We have in the Foundation Library a book by
Henry W. Soltau first published in 1851. It is titled
- The Holy Vessels and Furniture of the
Tabernacle. The "jacket" indicates "this study draws the
believers to a wide field of blessed truth which typifies the Lord Jesus."
In other words, the meanings of the type and antitype symbolisms of the
sanctuary structure were worked out by another prior to Adventism. What then
is unique in our sanctuary teaching? Speaking of the priests "that offer
gifts according to the law," Paul declares that these "serve unto the
example and shadow of heavenly things." (Heb. 8:5) It was the service, not the structure per se, which
contains the message which opens our understanding to the heavenly reality.
This should be readily seen by a simple comparison. The earthly model contained
a most holy place whose length, width and height were equal, making a ten cubit
cube. Now consider by contrast that Daniel sees the judgment set in an
amphitheater which could seat all the heavenly hosts (Dan. 7:10). This means
simply that we need to carefully rethink all our perceptions of the heavenly
ministry of Christ, in line with the example given, not of structure revealed
but of the services carried forward in that structure. Further, a careful
consideration of the tense of the verb used by John, as he penned the first
angel's message, could enhance our understanding of its relationship and
meaning to the beginning of the judgment as pictured in the prophecy of Daniel. Then there
are some questions that need to be probed and some answers found. Why were
all the angels gathered at the very beginning of the convening of the Judgement in the Heavenly Most Holy Place? (As traffic cops
to confirm the tickets they gave the law breakers of earth? Hardly? A bit
ridiculous? But why were they called at the opening of the judgment?) Could it
be that the final message of mercy could not begin until the Heavenly Host made
a decision in the light of the open books of heavenly record? Does the
"theorem" that the judgment on sin must begin at the point and over
the point where sin began have validity? If so, is this one of the reasons for
the assembling of the Heavenly Hosts? Does the
dictum that sin will not arise a second time include also the angels of heaven?
If yes, why would it? In the
light of the above questions, is a re-study of the services performed in type
on the Day of Atonement as outlined in Leviticus 16 mandated? Take
another look as to the precise wording of the "Statement of Faith"
which we quoted above. It speaks of the Sabbath as "a symbol in time of
God's finished work in Christ," and uses a reference from Hebrews to
confirm the statement. Yet the book of Hebrews speaks of the continuing
ministry of Christ. Does that intercession obtain nothing for him who comes
boldly to the throne of grace? (Heb. 4:16) Would not a clearer perception of the
types in the "service" outlined, clarify the meaning of the sacrifice
completed at the Cross. Or do we no longer believe that Adventism did carry a
unique message, and for the concerned Adventist today it still carries such a
message! ++++
WEBSITE
E-
Originally published by Adventist Laymen's Foundation of Mississippi/Arkansas
Wm. H. Grotheer, Editor
Adventist Laymen's Foundation was chartered in 1971 by Elder Wm. H. Grotheer, then 29 years in the Seventh-day Adventist
ministry, and associates, for the benefit of Seventh-day Adventists who were deeply concerned about the compromises of fundamental
doctrines by the Church leaders in conference with those who had no right to influence them. Elder Grotheer began to publish the monthly "Thought Paper," Watchman, What of the Night? (WWN) in January, 1968, and continued the publication as Editor until the end of 2006. Elder Grotheer died on May 2, 2009.
|